New Trailers for Arrow & The Flash

ArrowThe CW released some new fall trailers yesterday, including great looks at Arrow and its spinoff The Flash.

This Arrow one is called “High Speed Chase,” but it should really be called “Multi-Tasking” and/or “Oliver Being Adorable. Arrow premieres on October 8th.

And The Flash premieres the day before, on October 7th. Here’s “Guardian Angel.”

Arrow Thoughts & Open Thread: Unthinkable

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I’ll admit I was slightly underwhelmed by the Arrow finale, “Unthinkable.” It was mostly fine, just didn’t really grab me for the most part. Oliver won! Yay! And imprisoned Slade on the island, so that will be interesting. And . . . knows how to fly planes! Because he was taken to Hong Kong? Or something? And everyone was saying “I love you” all over the place, and some of them even meant it.

But Oliver did not mean it when he said it to Felicity, at least not in the way she wanted him to, and this whole bait and switch situation annoyed me a bit. And it’s not even because I wanted it to be real – I’d rather see Oliver with Laurel. But it just seemed mean. If Felicity had been in on it, and she and Oliver were fooling the audience along with Slade, I would have loved it. But it gave her false hope, and maybe her feelings in the moment aren’t that important when Oliver’s manipulating her to literally save their own and everyone else’s lives, but still. “You really sold it.” “We both did.” Heartbreaking.

John Barrowman is going to be a regular next season, and I’m very curious to see where this Merlyn/Thea situation goes. She did shoot him, but he was wearing Kevlar, of course, so he’s fine. Because he’s Merlyn, he’s proud that she went through with shooting him, because her courage shows that she’s truly his daughter, blah blah. STOP INSULTING TOMMY. Anyway, he basically convinces Thea that everyone in her life is equally terrible and lying to her, and so they leave town. She claims she won’t return, though I hope that doesn’t stick for long.

Also leaving Starling City: Sara. She agrees to rejoin the League of Assassins in order to get their help saving the city, but she insists she’s no martyr: “For the first time in my life I’m deciding my own fate.” I loved that she gave Laurel her leather jacket when she left and very much hope it’s a sign of the passing of the Canary identity.

Other favorite lines and points of interest:

  • “Well, seems like I missed a lot.” I missed you, Roy.
  • “Felicity Smoak. MIT class of 09.”
  • Sara: “To fight the unthinkable, you have to be willing to do the unthinkable.”
  • “The League does not take prisoners.” “It does tonight.”
  • Oh no, I hope Lance is okay!
  • “You don’t have the guts to kill me.” “No. I have the strength to let you live.”
  • I loved that Oliver acknowledged that he made it home because Slade trained him to kill.
  • I assume this is a minority opinion, but I’m super excited for a plotline about Oliver trying to get his company back.
  • “You did it.” “I had help.
  • Lila’s pregnant!

Arrow Thoughts & Open Thread: Streets of Fire

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For me, “Streets of Fire” was all about GIRLS BEING AWESOME. Felicity running down Isabel! Laurel with that bow! Thea with the gun! Sara running into the burning building! Yay! And it was interesting to see Oliver’s differing levels of belief in their various capabilities – it especially leapt out at me that he implied that he would trust Felicity to ensure Laurel’s safety, whereas not too long ago he would probably have seen Felicity as someone who also needed protection. The Laurel/Sara stuff was touching, though I’m still not a big Sara fan, and Felicity’s “You are not alone. And I believe in you” got me closer to shipping Felicity/Oliver than anything has in a while.

I almost felt badly for Blood a few times this hour, though really, he should have known this would all end badly for everyone. I can’t believe anyone listened to him about not sending in outside help – as though there wasn’t mass hysteria already? But I loved how quickly Lance figured out roughly what was going on, and how he got his shield and some actual power back. Of course, even with Lance and the cops more or less on Team Arrow, how will they possibly stand up to the Argus army?

The Thea/Merlyn stuff was also extremely interesting. “Who are you?” “I’m her father.” For much of the episode, I was expecting Merlyn to somehow win her over, given how betrayed she feels by the rest of the family, and that to set up an interesting family dynamic for next year. But instead she shot him! Maybe! Do we think that was for real?

Other favorite lines and points of interest:

  • That image of trapped Laurel was sure reminiscent of Tommy, huh?
  • “I really thought the air bags were gonna go off.”
  • “Nice shot.”
  • “I’m with the Arrow.” “Good. That’s good.” How far we’ve come! Along similar lines: “Starling City police force is standing with you on this one.”
  • “I don’t need you right now. Everyone else does.”
  • “We’ve got masks tearing our city to pieces, and we’re gonna need a mask to stop them.”
  • “You honor the dead by fighting. And you are not done fighting.”
  • “Just saying, if you guys don’t come back alive, I’m gonna be really pissed.”
  • “Near him? Near a TV? Turn it on.” I love that Felicity just says “yes” but it’s actually a tablet. No time to explain changing technologies in the middle of all this!

Arrow Thoughts & Open Thread: City of Blood

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First: Moira’s funeral. So sad. I loved how they juxtaposed the funeral and the inauguration. I loved Walter’s return, and Laurel trying to be there for Thea, and Diggle supporting Felicity. “You’re not crying for her, Felicity. You’re crying for Oliver.” Poor Oliver – hiding out alone in his secret secret lair, convinced he has to sacrifice himself to save his remaining loved ones. Diggle and Felicity try to talk him out of it, of course, but when they can’t, they – with the assistance of Laurel – go ahead and just forcibly prevent him from giving himself up to Slade. I love them.

Which brings us to Laurel. I freaking love her so much. And this was probably her best episode yet. I loved that she figured stuff out herself, bugged the mayor, and then went to Diggle and Felicity with her knowledge. And it makes me so happy that she knows Oliver is the Arrow and that she’s not mad or anything, they’re just . . . talking about it and dealing. “You thought about telling me, the night of the Undertaking.” “I thought about telling you almost every night.” That’s really the icing, though: the cake is Laurel telling Oliver about the connection between Slade and Blood – actual useful information that she found out on her own, and information that shows that everything is not quite as much Oliver’s fault as he has been assuming.

Of course, Laurel doesn’t get an immediate pass onto Team Arrow. Oliver doesn’t want to have to worry about her safety in the middle of a plan that was already made without her, which makes a certain amount of sense. “I need you to trust me, and I need you to be safe.” “But not them?” “This started with the three of us. It’s time we got back to that.” He has a point, and I tend to hate the trope of the “non-professional” partner refusing to stay in the car/remain in safety/etc., but at the same time, I loved Laurel showing up and actually being useful. (Well. Except for making it harder for Oliver to sacrifice himself at the last moment, which I assume is what the torpedo flashbacks were foreshadowing.)

At the end of the episode, we have Slade’s army rising up in the middle of Starling City, in a truly creepy way – in the police station and the train station, at least, as people put on masks and start attacking people. Presumably this battle for Starling City is what leads us into the last two episodes of the season.

Other favorite lines and points of interest:

  • “She was diabolical. Not a word you often hear at someone’s funeral.”
  • Always here for Felicity’s tech interest. “But that’s not even supposed to exist yet. I want one.”
  • “Not powerful in an evil dictator Stalin way . . .”
  • “There has not been a day since you were born where I didn’t cherish having you as a sister.” Aww.
  • “I know you like I know my own name.”
  • “Bitch.” “Bitch with wifi.”
  • “How do you know I’ve been working with Slade Wilson?” “Because I’m the Arrow.” Loved that reveal.

Arrow Thoughts & Open Thread: Seeing Red

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There is, of course, one main thing I want to talk about regarding “Seeing Red” – MOIRA. Oh, Moira. I’m so sad. I loved Moira Queen as a character, with all her flaws and all her strengths. And I loved the complicated Queen family dynamics. Before she died, she told Oliver that she knew his secret – but did not, of course, articulate what exactly she knew. If Oliver assumes she figured out the truth, though, and approved, hopefully that will give him some peace. Of course, Moira’s death opens up some interesting new directions for Oliver and Thea, but still. Sad.

Oh, and the other thing we should talk about: The flashbacks and their revelations. First: Oliver and Laurel were kind of adorable, and I would totally watch that flashback as a teen soap. And more importantly, presumably, for the story: We learned that Oliver may have a child out there somewhere – and that Moira paid the mother to tell Oliver she miscarried and go away forever. This could go interesting places, I suppose, but I’m . . . concerned. We’ll see.

Other favorite lines & points of interest:

  • “Felicity, I don’t think there’s a force on earth that could make you a bad person.” Ugh, forget Felicity/Oliver, let’s have Felicity/Diggle.
  • At one point Felicity magically calls two people’s cell phones at the same time. How?
  • “Mopey’s your default, Ollie. It’s part of your smoldering charm.” “I do have smoldering charm.”
  • “Now, I’m going to go upstairs to the stockroom, and if I get attacked by some shot glasses, I’ll call 911.”
  • “Lurking seemed like a good compromise.” “Yeah, well. It’s not.”
  • “The bottle says the proper dose – ” “Is all of it.”
  • “No one dies tonight.”
  • “I just care about you too much to be with you.” AGAIN. Over this.

Arrow Thoughts & Open Thread: The Man Under the Hood

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I guess a lot of things happened in this episode, but I really just want to talk about Laurel. I was so thrilled to watch her figure things out in this episode. She even has a murder board! After Sara’s doctor tells Laurel about Sara’s old injuries – apparently doctor/patient confidentiality doesn’t exist in Starling City? – Laurel actually manages to put it all together. Well, every conversation in this episode was interrupted, so she never quite says what she pulled together, but she says she knows who the Arrow is and then she seeks out Oliver and hugs him: “What’s this for?” “Because you’re important to me.” Aww. Interestingly – and frustratingly – Quentin doesn’t want to know who it is, because he recognizes it’s easier for him to use the Arrow as a tool if he doesn’t think about him as a person.

I have questions about Isabel’s corporate takeover. Primarily: No matter how much Isabel “dilutes” the stock, if the Queen family still has a majority of the overall stock, how can it be worthless without the company being worthless? Anyway, I was disappointed that the motivation behind Isabel’s actions turned out to be her love for Oliver’s father – I was hoping for something that didn’t revolve around a romantic plot.

Poor Thea is still mad at her family over the paternity revelations, though I wasn’t sure why the lawyer didn’t just go to her directly for necessary signatures instead of trying to make her meet up with her relatives she didn’t want to see. The poor girl finally realizes the Tommy connection: “I tried to kiss my half-brother before my real father killed him. That’s how screwed up I am.” And then: “I was never going to be okay. It’s not in my genes.” It’s Isabel, of all people, who reveals that Queen knew about Thea’s paternity and ignored it, and Oliver seizes on this: “He chose us. He chose you. He made a decision to be your father even though he didn’t have to be.” Thea’s unconvinced so far: “It tells me he’s a liar. Just like both of you.” I hope she comes to some sort of peace with the situation soon, though I also wouldn’t be surprised if Merlyn pops up and messes it all up again.

In this episode, we also met Caitlin Snow and Cisco Ramon, S.T.A.R. Labs scientists who are set to be characters on The Flash spinoff. I didn’t develop any strong feelings about either of them, really, but they were fine and I’m looking forward to watching that show if it goes ahead. It sounds like Barry is not doing very well – I guess him waking up might be in the first episode of his show? – but, to Felicity’s chagrin, he has a woman spending a lot of time with him: “That’s just swell. Barry’s in a coma and he’s already moved on.” Aww, poor Felicity.

Other favorite lines and points of interest:

  • “Felicity, this was your plan.” “I didn’t think you would actually say yes.” Funny, and also an interesting commentary on their dynamic.
  • “For the record, I hated her before we figured out she was a supervillain.”
  • Laurel: “Sometimes it’s people closest to us who lie to us best.”
  • “What kind of secret?” “The kind I have to keep.”

Arrow Thoughts & Open Thread: Deathstroke

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I’ve been pretty open about not being particularly into the last few episodes of Arrow, so I’m pleased that last night’s episode focused more on things I care about – Oliver’s personal and professional angst. Awesome fights. Queen Consolidated. The mayoral race. Oliver in business suits.

The ongoing struggle between Oliver and Roy about what to do with Thea is interrupted by Thea herself being kidnapped by Slade – which we knew – who is working with Isobel, which we did not know. I was wondering if or when she’d be coming back, so this was delightful – especially since we got to see a Summer Glau/Stephen Amell fight. Isobel uses Oliver’s distraction during Thea’s kidnapping to get him to hand over the company to her “temporarily” – but of course takes it permanently – and I like that her aim was (at least partially) getting the Queen labs to replicate serum, rather than just being evil.

There’s a political side too – Thea’s ransom video interrupts the mayoral debate, and I loved the mention of the sympathy bump the incident gave Moira in the polls. Blood – who is also working with Slade, remember – is upset, as he somehow thought this whole incident was intended to help his campaign, but Slade points out that he promised Blood the city, not necessarily the election, and it turns out he’s in fact building an army to take the city. I hope this doesn’t mean we see fewer campaign shenanigans, because I honestly love the election plotline. Less island, more city politics!

Thea returns safely, thank goodness, having served her purpose, but not before Slade tells her her brother’s “secret” – which ends up being her own paternity. Why he frames that as her brother’s secret rather than her mother’s, I don’t know, other than to pull a bait-and-switch on the audience and make us think that someone else might be finally finding out the real secret. But then! He shows up at Laurel’s apartment and tells her that Oliver is the Arrow! I am so excited to see where this goes. Between this and Oliver’s “Now we fight back,” Arrow has me more engaged than I’d been for several episodes.

Other favorite lines and points of interest:

  • “Your mascara is running.” Of course he has a handkerchief.
  • “You letting the bad guys stay alive this year has filled the jails to capacity.” Heh.
  • “Well, I told a guy the truth and he got struck by lightning. To be fair, that probably won’t happen again, statistically.”
  • I loved Felicity trying to get Oliver to make time for the company, and, of course, she was right.
  • “I’ve gotten pretty good at pretending to be something I’m not. I learned it from you.” Queen family angst is my favorite.
  • I love that Oliver still calls Lance “Detective.” Speaking of Lance, I am worried about him.
  • “I’m not one to hold a grudge.” Hahahaha.
  • Roy: “Well, of course you’d take his side. You’re screwing him.” I love having Roy on Team Arrow.
  • “From the moment your children are born, you worry about what the world might do to them, but you never stop to think about what you might do to them.” . . . “Do you have any idea of who you sound like? You sound like her.” Again, Queen family angst is my favorite.
  • “Why are you here?” “Where else would we be?” Aww. And Diggle’s “Now what, boss?” reminded me very much of The West Wing‘s “What’s next?”

Arrow Thoughts & Open Thread: Birds of Prey

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I’m in a weird place with Arrow recently, where I’m still enjoying it, mostly, but I feel like what the show cares about and what I care about are pretty different. So while I thought last night’s episode was mostly fine, I am surprised to see reviews calling it “perfect” and saying that everything Huntress-related is The Best. Which really just means that those viewers’ wishes are more correctly attuned to what the show itself is trying to do, and I’m probably in the “wrong” here, and this is basically just a roundabout way of saying that I don’t have a whole lot to say.

What I do have:

  • Felicity: “Or as I like to call her, Oliver’s psycho ex-girlfriend hellbent on revenge against her father.” Sara: “Ex-girlfriend?” Oliver: “That’s what you took from that sentence?” Thank you, Oliver. Priorities, Sara.
  • “I’m still facing sanctions from the bar.” “Ah, I’ve got a buddy on the disciplinary committee, I squared it for you.” I have a lot of questions about the Starling City bar association, not least why Laurel is referring to herself as a lawyer in the past tense when she’s “facing sanctions” rather than, you know, actually disbarred.
  • Felicity: “Anyone with boobs can get a frat boy to do anything.” Oliver: “I was a frat boy.” Felicity: “I rest my case.” Heh. I like snarky Felicity better than pining Felicity.
  • Oliver: “It’s not like Helena to show restraint.” Sara: “Sounds like you have a type.” Point, but also, again, priorities, Sara.
  • Oliver: “I thought I was helping you control it.” Roy: “You are. I mean, I can’t look at a bowl of water without slapping it.” HEE.
  • Oliver should know better than anyone that just telling Roy to stay away from Thea for her own good will never work. But I liked that Roy realized the risk he was posing himself and then followed Oliver’s advice. (But I enjoy the Roy/Thea dynamic, so I hope this situation doesn’t last long.)
  • “Unfortunately I decapitated the engineer.” Oh, right, this is why I love this show.
  • “I created the Huntress.” “Yeah, well you created Slade too.” These people are really into taking credit/blame for everything, huh?
  • “See this, Mr. Donner, is what happens when you let freaks with masks run wild.” Heh.
  • The courthouse scene was interesting because Oliver was there as himself, which curtailed his options of how to actually help. And: Oliver: “I’m with Lance as Oliver and he just called the Arrow.” Felicity: “Oh. Oh. It’s getting really hard to keep track of who knows whose secret identity.” Confusing for us too!
  • “Are you one of the good guys?” “No. But I’m friends with them.” Interesting.
  • Laurel never recognizing Oliver in “disguise” is one thing, but not recognizing her own sister when she’s just wearing a tiny mask is completely ridiculous.
  • “Does this make us girlfriends?”
  • “Helena, don’t kill him. You can never come back from that.” “It’s too late. I’m already gone.”
  • Love Ollie basically buying his way into a police interrogation room. I like a boy who throws his money around occasionally.
  • “I have to say, I’m impressed. I’d have thought blackmail was a little dark for you.” I like Laurel’s darkness.
  • “You’re the only one who does lie to me, Ollie. You’re the only one who doesn’t keep secrets from me.” Oh, Thea.
  • I loved the tiny wordless moment toward the end of Diggle comforting Roy.
  • When Slade picks up Thea, they act like they’ve never met, but I thought they had, at the house. No?